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After hours and hours of deep deliberation and time debating at length all the ins and outs of the New York Giants organization, from the potential draft picks this upcoming off-season, to the reason the Giants used to wear those awful red jerseys...we finally have the answers to your questions.

Apologies if we did not get to yours, but rest-assured knowing that we will do this again soon and will certainly find time to hit other people's questions. But for now, here are the answers:

SEAN CARROLL

- fanfor55years:
Q:  Who among the current members of the roster do you expect to see gone next season?

A:  This is always a tough one to say unless there is a really obvious answer a la Edgerrin James in Arizona.  Additionally, there can be tons of different possibilities here, so I will go with the ones I believe are most possible.

First and foremost, the sad reality is that Derrick Ward will probably be scooped up by another team.  He won’t get the money he deserves here and he has earned the right go be a starter somewhere else…he’s learned how to shine and I respect whatever decision he makes.  So look for Mr. Ward to be on a team hurting for a quality RB with some experience under his belt.  Next I would say that Sinorice Moss is likely nearing the end of his time with the Giants.  He wanted to “shock the world” but aside some junk-time TD’s against Seattle, he has not done much of anything.  He had his shot, but now it’s time to go.  The last Giant I see leaving, and I’m sure I’ll take some heat for this, is Amani Toomer.  He’s still a player, still a contributor, still a clutch guy on the field…but he’s one of the eldest guys out there and he knows it’s high time he step aside. 

- DEMO3356:
Q:  Why is there no attempt to get anything out of Sinorice Moss? Why not try and get his speed and explosiveness out there. Use him like Philly uses Jackson with some quick hitters, End arounds, Screens or at least have him return kicks. My concern is if he is not going to be used why didnt they Activate Tyree who at least contributes big time on Special teams?

A:  DEMO, as you saw in my answer above, I see Moss as a lost cause.  He may have some quick burst speed, but the fact is that he’s a small guy who has dropped a lot of passes and has not done a single thing to set himself apart from the rest of the bench players.  I think there was a lot of hope in Moss but not a lot of turnout, so his departure is on the horizon.  As for Tyree, I think they had other needs for the roster spots.  With Hixon being a proven threat now, they got to keep him on the roster and out on the field while keeping Moss on the bench for whenever he’s needed.  Not to mention we also have two kickers and an otherwise full-house.  Tyree’s locker in Giants Stadium may very well have been kept intact only because he’s a Super Bowl hero.  Hixon is better in almost every way, plain and simple.

- MentalHockey:
Q:  Do you think the Giants will try to sign Ward to a long-term contract? How much will their ability/inability to lock-up Jacobs play into their decision? And if we don't sign Ward, is the front office going to be content with Ware and/or Droughns as the backup(s) or will we target a RB sometime during the offseason?

A:  I honestly have no idea.  My guess is that the Giants will not hang on to both Jacobs and Ward, and due to Jacob’s being a phenomenon and an anomaly, they simply have to keep him.  I’m sure they would love nothing more than to keep the running game the way it is, but after playing like they have been, the demands from Ward and Jacobs will be too much for the Giants (again, this is all speculation, but I feel confidant in it).  My guess is Jacobs does not want to be anywhere but in NY/NJ and the team feels the same…no way he leaves.  Droughns is definitely not anything more than a last resort at this point.  Ware is a “wait-and-see” situation, but certainly looks promising.  However, Ahmad Bradshaw is just salivating at the thought of being the alternate to Brandon Jacobs and given everything we have seen from him, we should be salivating too.  All that being said, I would love to have Jacobs, Ward and Bradshaw as the trio once again next year…but it just ain’t gonna happen.

- norm:
Q:  If the Giants repeat or even go deep into the playoffs, do they have even a remote chance of hanging onto Spags?

A:  I would say yes.  Steve Spagnuolo is a tremendous coordinator and I’m sure he’ll be courted every off-season.  However, the bottom line is that his heart is in NY right now.  Plus, he’s being smart.  By waiting around and racking up a few years under Coughlin where he continues to take this defense to the top and helps bring the Giants to the playoffs/Super Bowl (knock on wood), he is only padding that resume so that he can more or less write his own ticket when he does decide to leave…not to mention demand a big, ole’ paycheck.  So yes, I see no reason we have to automatically wave goodbye to Spags just because we do well.

HAZEM KISWANI

- daburton:
Q:  As I see it, Plaxico is bound to kick it back into high gear at some point. With that said, which matchups do you like for Plaxico in the weeks to come and which game do you think it finally clicks again between him and Eli?

A:  Well, this is possibly the worst slump of Plaxico Burress' career with the Giants. He has been seeing a lot of double coverage, a lot of attention in pass defense, and the Giants do have other weapons to get the football to. That said, the Giants expect more from Burress. According to Coughlin's comments about Plax the last two weeks, Burress has been practicing well and he's itching to have a big game. Fortunately for Plaxico and the Giants offense, the Giants next three matchups come against Arizona, Washington, and Philadelphia. Burress has seen plenty of success against Philadelphia and Washington in his time with the Giants, and Arizona does not have the cornerbacks to match up well with Burress, especially considering the fact that Rod Hood is nicked up for the Cards.

- csherm91:
Q:  I know its way too early to talk about the draft but what names have stuck out to you as possible choices for us?

A:  Very early sherm, but of course everybody loves some draft talk. Watching the Giants this season, it's been really tough to find weak areas on either side of the ball. That said, the approach the Giants take come draft time will largely depend on what they can do with their potential free agents as well as the healthy return of Osi Umenyiora and development of young players like safety Michael Johnson, cornerback Terrell Thomas, and young linebackers Jonathan Goff and Bryan Kehl.

In the end, you still have to think the defense is the side of the ball the Giants are more concerned with upgrading. Names to keep an eye and ear to include two Wake Forest guys - LB Aaron Curry and CB Alphonso Smith, as well as S William Moore of Missouri, LB Brian Cushing of USC, and S Taylor Mays of USC. Now these are not necessarily guys I love, just some of the top defensive prospects that likely won't go in the top 10 of the upcoming draft.

- fanfor55years:
Q:  Given how well Chase Blackburn has been playing, what are the chances that when Kehl and Wilkinson are healthy he is given a real chance to displace Danny Clark at SAM this season? Why wouldn't he be a logical choice for that spot since he's a real "downhill" linebacker?

A:  If you recall back in preseason, I spoke about Chase Blackburn as a real candidate to win the weakside linebacker job, and that I felt he could do a solid job as a starter for this defense. It wasn't about physical talent or great athleticism, because that's not what Blackburn is about. It's the way he approaches the game. Now his opportunity has come and he hasn't disappointed coaches with his effort and intensity out there - something every defense needs from its linebackers. Don't expect Gerris Wilkinson to step back into this lineup anytime soon. His progress has been negated by injury after injury, and both Kehl and Blackburn have done more to warrant playing time now and in the future. As for the SAM spot, Danny Clark has quietly been very solid for the Giants. I believe he remains in the lineup, but even when Kehl comes back - you may see a platoon between he and Blackburn at the weakside spot. Blackburn is a guy that's going to give you 100% and do all he can to help his team win, and coaches trust guys like that out on the field.

- arigsbee:
Q:  Who do you realisticly see the G-Men locking back up after this season? I know several players, including Jacobs, Webster, Ward, Tollefson, Dockery and others are going to need extensions.  Who of these guys do you see us keeping around? Also, with some older vets like RW, Madison, Toomer, Droughns, Carney, etc...who do you see sticking around...and who do you see leaving?

A:  With guys like McQuarters, Droughns, and Carney - you can almost be certain that those guys won't be back next season. Both Droughns and McQuarters are bottom of the roster guys that will likely have to give way to rookies and young talent next season. As for the running backs, I don't see any way the Giants let Jacobs get to free agency. Jacobs really embodies what this football team is - a physical, tough, wear you down football player that's too essential to the success of the offense to let walk. Couple that with the fact that Jacobs genuinely wants to remain with this team, and you have to think that the two sides will get something done in the near future. Ward however, will be very difficult to keep around. I'm almost certain that a team will step up and offer him a four or five year deal with starting running back money.

One very interesting situation is that of Amani Toomer. While still a very solid receiver that can contribute to this team, there are some young guns behind him really pushing for more playing time, including Domenik Hixon and rookie Mario Manningham. Toomer doesn't look like a guy ready to hang up the cleats, and his role will likely decrease as this season goes on and we go into next season. So it's certainly going to be interesting to watch that play out.

DAN MURPHY

- arigsbee:
Q:  When Osi returns next season, how do you view Kiwi's role? Do you think he'll play at LB, and move to DE on 3rd downs and move Tuck to DT...or do you see him as a rotational DE?

A:  Great question – it is certainly thought-provoking, isn’t it?  To me, there is absolutely no doubt that Kiwanuka continues to learn the LB position after Osi comes back next season.  While he is a sure-shot defensive end who delivers predictable and consistent results, Kiwanuka will be most valuable to us in the linebacker position.  Let’s face it, when Osi Umenyiora returns to the line, he is an upgrade over Kiwanuka.  Not to take anything away from Kiwi, but let’s not forget how valuable The Chief is to this team and what a natural (Pro Bowl) pass rusher he is.  I will say this, and this might help give some better direction to my answer…in case of repeated injury, the Giants are much better of with Kiwi continuing to learn the strong side linebacker position.  With him being cultivated to become a permanent fixture there, the Giants can reap the benefits of Mathias at LB and also will have an insurance policy at DE should another need arise.  I say this because I believe in Kiwanuka as a SAM.  In fact, he was starting to show signs of permanent promise at the strong side before the injury to Osi.  As far as Tuck moving to DT on 3rd down, isn’t it already a foregone conclusion that will happen regardless?  Tuck is great lining up as a tackle in certain situations and I don’t feel that will end – regardless of who fills in at LE.  If I didn’t believe Kiwi is a guy who could handle that position, then it would be a no-brainer.  In addition to this, depending on our personnel next season (players and coaches), don’t count out Mathias being used as an end in certain situations.  An argument can be made for both sides here but I think the decision to move him to LB remains the correct one. 

- troplaya:
Q:  If and when we beat Carolina for the number one slot in the NFC, what do we do for the final game of the season?  Do we approach the Vikings the same way we went about last year in week 17, play everyone.  Or do we do what all of the other teams who lost in the playoffs did last year.  Rest the starters??
 
A:  Who’s doper than Tropa?  Good question.  Man, did I struggle with this one in the past.  Last season was such a roller coaster of emotion not only for us but for the Giants as well.  Last year, looking back on it, the 2007 Giants needed that game to get charged up for that great postseason run.  It’s simple – without the decision to play that game like it was week one, the Giants do not get to the Super Bowl.  The Giants looked like a completely different team in the playoffs because of that game against the Patriots.  So the question surfaces yet again- do we do the same (if possible) and hope history repeats itself?  I say no.  I say that if the situation presents itself that we rest our guys.  I answer with that for three reasons.  First, there is too much to be lost in a meaningless game at the end of the year.  I feel that the only reasons we went at the Pats like we did in week 17 was because we owed to all of the NFL to attempt to stand in New England’s way and because the coaches didn’t feel we were ready.  The Vikings will hardly pose such a concern and there isn’t the same confidence to be gained against a mediocre team.  But there is much to be lost.  Look at what is happening to MeanBearPig Jacobs this week.  For that reason it is not worth it.  Secondly, doing as well as you have in the regular season, you have earned a right to have an opportunity to rest your men and gear up for another postseason run:  take the opportunity to do so.  Lastly, this Giants team doesn’t need a “keep your players in game mode” game. This is one of the most mature and intelligent teams in the NFL and if the last 12 months have not reflected that, then what have we proven?  Last year, yes…this year, absolutely not.  Take two weeks off (with the bye) and come to play.  We are not Indianapolis…Coughlin, Spags, and Flaherty won’t allow complacency or a lack of preparation to ensue.

- daburton:
Q:  Does Kenny Philips have the starting safety spot under control or does James Butler take what was his when he returns back from his injury?

A:  It is definitely something to think about.  I feel that bringing Butler in after his recovery is counterintuitive.  In most situation, when a player gets injured it gives an opportunity for another guy who steps in and then, in turn, relinquishes the position when the original guy returns.  However, there is a different dynamic here.  We already knew that Phillips was going to be the guy for the future at the safety position but he need to get his feet wet, study the position, and become more experienced.  Sometimes there is no better way to procure that experience than to just throw them out there (i.e. Eli Manning against 5 of the 6 best defenses in the NFL in his first season).  It wasn’t necessarily the same circumstance but Butler got injured and that is exactly what has occurred.  To put Butler back in as a starter would be foolish and retard the progress of Kenny Phillips.  KP isn’t inexperienced enough to hurt the team so why the hell not now?  He is already an upgrade over Butler because he can inflict that big hit that can energize a defensive squad.  You hear a lot of talk about how smart Butler is on the field but I don’t care about that over the raw talent that KP possesses.  I feel better having Butler rotate in for Phillips rather than the other way around.  Kenny is the starter now and to place Butler back in would be retroactive in a bad way. 

- norm:
Q:  Is there a chance that the Giants lose Marc Ross to a GM position somewhere? Given that he has been instrumental in helping Reese orchestrate back to back boffo drafts, you'd think his stock as a prospective GM is probably pretty high right now. Are you guys aware if he's on the radar of any teams who might be looking for a GM this offseason?

A:  Boy, have we had some studs in scouting and player personnel over the years haven’t we?  Marc Ross is just the latest addition to our prized stable.  The answer is no for the next few years, Norm.  Ross, who was only 34 when he took aver boss duties of the scouting department has simply not cut enough wood to afford a GM title just yet.  While his stock, unlike the market, is rising every week, Ross is very green and not ready for that responsibility as soon as next season.  A couple of questions must be answered for Ross to have eventual appeal as GM type.  One, how much of his current system is an extension of the Acorsi/Reese machine?  And, can he take a team that is in a trough and build them into a great team with the draft?  Ross hasn’t has the opportunity for either just yet.  Hypothetically, which won’t happen, the teams that would love a hot-shot new GM would include: Oakland, Cincinnati San Francisco, Kansas City, Washington, and Seattle.  As far as I know, Marc Ross isn’t being looked at right now.  I am more worried about Steve Spagnuolo’s future here.

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MentalHockey said:

Oh yeah. They used one of my questions. I too think next year will consist of Jacobs and Bradshaw. Backups will be Ware and a late-round rookie.

November 21, 2008 1:48 AM
 

Fitz said:

Nice Job writers..

Well since we are going back to the place of glory,I think this might some up what some of us felt like that night LOL....

www.youtube.com/watch

And what city makes winning look better then this..Man what a great,crazy night that was...

www.youtube.com/watch

November 21, 2008 3:22 AM
 

Samardzija said:

We arent going to rest our starters against Minny, thats not the TC way. He explained why last year and said he would do it again. Just think about this, we rest the starters in week 17, get a week bye and then play a game. We arent taking two weeks off, thats too long.

We play to win every game, thats what the NFL is about.

November 21, 2008 3:46 AM
 

Samardzija said:

And btw, Ross has only been involved in one draft, he had nothing to do with the class of 07..

November 21, 2008 5:25 AM
 

jimDB said:

Great questions,

Nice isn't to know Kiwi's the David Diehl of the defense, these are the reasons the Gmen don't miss a beat. I'm now a beleiver in the JR's draft motto "best player available" and not necesarily "Need". I was never in this school of thought. I did like the Kwi pick; however, he wasn't a need but coming from a lineage of BC students and employees I had to like it. Seems like the school is producing some quality players.

Side note: I rermember the DD controversy. What a find, can't remember what round but what a find. Has kept Eli one of the healthiest QB's in the league, knock wood.

Don't forget to vote, heard Foreskin fan's stuffing the ballot box. www.nfl.com/.../ballot

November 21, 2008 9:17 AM
 

Jared said:

I would look for an addition to the offensive line during next April's draft. Then again, The Giants will likely stick with the best candidate on the board, regardless of position.

November 21, 2008 9:17 AM
 

Dan Murphy said:

Samar,

I hear that.  It is way too early to start thinking of Ross as a coveted GM.

November 21, 2008 9:47 AM
 

fanfor55years said:

Very good, thoughtful, answers. Nice job by all of you.

I guess I'm with Samardzija and expect TC to play his starters against the Vikings and only consider taking them out in the 3rd or 4th quarter if the Giants have wrapped up the #1 seed previously. Obviously, if they haven't clinched a bye then they will play right down to the final whistle to do their best to win. On the other hand, it would be nice to get Carr, Manningham, Hixon, Moss, Boothe, Ruegamer, Wilkinson, Goff and a few others some playing time late in the game in case any are needed during the playoffs. But let's first win Sunday, and then the next Sunday, and be in position to seriously start worrying about this nice dilemma.

I think the answers in regard to Spags and Ross are quite astute. I've written earlier about why I think there's a decent chance Spags is still with the Giants for 2009, and perhaps longer. Don't forget, with a great draft he would have the opportunity to build one of the great defenses in the history of the league. And another few years being tutored by Coughlin would not hurt him at all, especially with the hefty pay he is getting in a very comfortable situation. That's not to say he won't leave, but those who are so certain that he will are way too sure of themselves. If I were him I would definitely stay for 2009, see what the future looks like at that point, and then find out exactly what Reese's plans are for him before seeking employment elsewhere.

I don't think Ross has served a long enough apprenticeship yet. Player evaluation and scouting are big parts, but only parts, of a GM's responsibility. And he is working under one of the best player evaluation guys around, and everyone knows it, so they probably want to see a few more great drafts before they believe that Ross has the "touch". I suspect he is a few years away from being stolen away. I suppose some franchise might swing for the fences with him, but making a mistake with your GM is even worse than doing it with your coach. And, like Spags, Ross might be better off staying put and learning the full job for a few years, giving himself the best chance to succeed. After all, if Spags fails as a Head Coach he could always get a job as a Defensive Coordinator. If Ross fails as a GM he has nowhere to go from there.

November 21, 2008 10:10 AM
 

fanfor55years said:

The most intriguing question is how Kiwi will be used next year, and it's one we've all wondered about (even prior to this season).

I think that while Murph is basically right, it also depends upon who is available in the draft when our picks come up, and whether Goff, Clark or Blackburn can prove that they can hold down the SAM position. I really think there's a chance that Kiwi could be used in a pretty unique way and while listed as a linebacker would essentially be a "flex" guy who is lined up at the line in all nickel and dime packages but at SAM on first down and many second downs. But all of that could change if Reese drafts either a really top linebacker or a really good DE in April.

The one thing I know is that if I were the Giants' coaches, I'd want Kiwi on the field for every play except for occasional breathers to keep him fresh. He's too great a talent to just put in a rotation and have him sit out a third of the defensive snaps.

November 21, 2008 10:21 AM
 

ThatsMyQuarterback said:

I would much rather see Kiwi play on the line instead of LB, I think he is more valuable there, but I agree he should be on the field as much as possible.  Spags has shown that he knows how to work players in and out and into different positions for different situations, so I am sure he will be able to do the same with Kiwi.

I am guessing this is a problem that any other team in the league would like to have as well...

November 21, 2008 10:28 AM
 

DEMO3356 said:

www.nj.com/.../new_york_giants_aware_of_arizo.html

Gmen loking to turn Warner into one man turnover machine

November 21, 2008 10:42 AM
 

Jim Stoll said:

How about a new question?

Will the Giants rush for 300+ yards this week or in any other game during the remainder of the season?

November 21, 2008 11:15 AM
 

Jim Stoll said:

By the way, I ask that question because I think they can.  You can see this team has evolved into one that simply wants to overpower their opponents.  They want to beat them up front 5 yds at a time.  At the conclusion of last week more than one O-Lineman said they thought they could have rushed for more than the 207 they put up.  With their ability to punich, wear down, and then explode, it doesn't take much imagination to envision 2 or 3 40+ yd scampers, mixed with 30 more 6 yarders.  the Cardinals could quite possibly be the victim.

You heard it here first!!!

November 21, 2008 11:22 AM
 

GIANTT said:

I only just read the review of last weeks game on another site -(sorry to say that but its to prove a point )

I had brought up how I wasnt thrilled with the performance of Ray Lewis -I thought he was too slow and not having watched him to much -I dont watch too many games if the Giants or occasionally the Jets arent involved-I thought he didnt do much to help them ..Im surprised that the pundits on here really havent commented on his performance , especially after his smack  about how he wasnt worried about playing BJ -He really DID look like he wasnt interested in tackling him and he looked one step slow on others

I dont know whether he was really that slow or he just didnt want to tackle him - As the review said he certainly knows how to add to his stats without really getting too close.

Second point is the one Ive also harped on before ,

the depth and skill levels of our second line players , I was just watching a little bit of the game before my wife wants to watch "the View "

How many teams could seamlessly replace BJ AND

Kareem Mckenzie and do what they did against the best running defense in the league -Im talking about the third TD - with the Subs in there ?Most teams would have said -our best running back and starting right tackle are out - wow is me .we cant run - throw

This is why this team is going to go far , because this is the part of the season where players get nicked up and cant play for a game or two here or there and if the level of skill of the replacements is up to snuff then they will cream the opposition - I fully believe that this is the part of the season where the Giants will do just that and why they will prove that they are the best team in the NFL over the next few weeks .Thats why I really dont think its too important that BJ plays this week or not , if he feels ok then let him start and let the cardinals get the hang of tackling him for future reference, but then bring in ward and bradshaw.

I think 27-21 Giants , because I think the Giants will

throw a few more wrinkles into the offense ,and not solely rely on the run.

Defense , I think we have to take  Warner out of his rhythm  with some blitzes , because although hes played well , I still remember that he could play stinko if he was rattled.

November 21, 2008 11:24 AM
 

Jim Stoll said:

Punich?

How about  punish!!

November 21, 2008 11:25 AM
 

Samardzija said:

Punich; to remove or erase from existence

I think punich works just fine;-)

November 21, 2008 11:28 AM
 

fanfor55years said:

Punich is the favorite to win the Presidential election in 2010 in Slovakia.

Punish is what Jerry Jones doesn't believe in when it comes to Pacman.

Punch is what the Giants are going to do to the face of the Cards' defense on Sunday. That defense's pretty good stats against the run is an illusion. They played the Skins when Portis was hurt and haven't really played against a top running offense this season. They're about to find out they can't stop one without exposing themselves to disaster through the air.

November 21, 2008 11:33 AM
 

Nosh said:

Why does everyone think Kiwi is this GREAT LB? He's not even a very good LB. He played his entire life on the line, played like 8 games at LB last year and now thats his position? He's a natural pass rusher from the DE position, you know how hard that is to find? Why tinker with that?

How about when Osi comes back, Osi can take his old position, Kiwi moves to the other side, and Tuck moves inside?

Still someone has to explain to me exactly when Kiwanuka became this good LB? Because when I remember him playing there he was out of position a lot and having a hard time grasping how to play the position. Why waste another year or 2 of his career trying to teach him a position he may not even be good at when he could be an ELITE DE?!?!?!?!?!

Seriously am I the only one that thinks this? Like that moving Kiwi back to LB is Fu#ing stupid. Seriously, I thought this was a place for common sense. Kiwi is NOT A GOOD LB!!!! I don't know when all of the sudden people thought he was. But he has a chance to be a TOP DE. You don't f#ck with that if your the Giants.

O.K., talk to you guys later.

November 21, 2008 11:45 AM
 

ThatsMyQuarterback said:

Nosh, my thoughts exactly... I have been saying since day 1 that Kiwi should stay on the line.  I watched him a lot at BC and obviously now with the Giants, the guy is a stud DE.  The reason he dropped to us in the draft was because he had some horrible workouts.  Dibrickashaw Ferguson (not even going to attempt to spell that correctly) got the better of him a few times during workouts and caused his stock to dive, but that was a fluke.  He should remain on the line from here on out.

November 21, 2008 11:48 AM
 

GIANTT said:

Punich - wasnt he part of that German magic act years ago

Punich  emanhau ?

November 21, 2008 11:50 AM
 

fanfor55years said:

Nosh and TMQ, you're not thinking creatively enough.

Imagine a much bigger version of a great passrushing OLB in a 3-4 defense but one who can be just as effective from a three-point stance as when standing up. You don't have to give up Kiwi's talent at DE by allowing him to take a few steps back on obvious running down-and-distance situations. And while he would have to cover tight ends as a SAM when teams try to pass in those typical run situations, for the most part he would not have cover responsibilities much of the time when the Giants went to nickel and dime packages and had him up at the line with Tuck inside. [And by the time he got injured last season he was doing a very credible job covering tight ends and backs out of the backfield].

So by having him act as something of a "flex" player the defense could use him to either play the run, create immense pressure off the edge on the offense's right side where they do NOT usually have their best pass-blockers and would have to deal with Tuck + Kiwi coming after the QB, or loop toward the middle and use his speed to get through a seam and reach the QB a lot faster than most DTs can do. That use of this terrific athlete as a multi-dimensional weapon is probably worth the tradeoff of having him still need to perfect his short coverage responsibilities.

November 21, 2008 12:07 PM
 

The Original G Man said:

I'm going to start incorporating the word "punich" into my everyday conversations.

November 21, 2008 12:17 PM
 

Kyle Langan said:

ff55 and BryanMcoy didnt see the post about philly in the last thread that I made. would love to see their comments about that...

November 21, 2008 12:17 PM
 

Kyle Langan said:

I really feel like going on a rant right now, and the topic is the dallas cowboys, especially their fans. I am tired of you... Look at the facts people...

Dallas Fan: "Oh, We have 5 super bowls, so dont even act like you do..."

Ill tell you what Im gonne act like... Ill act like there wasnt always a superbowl, and The Giants have 7 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS and 10 CONFERENCE CHAPIONSHIPS. If any of you Dallas fans wanna reduce the window of time in which we compare our teams, allow me to reduce it to the last 12 years WHERE YOU HAVE NOT ONE POST SEASON WIN. Go ahead, act like you have some type of great "tradition"

Ill tell you what your tradition is, its Mike Irvin stabbing people in the neck, employing criminals (Tank johnson, pacman, Irvin, Quincy Carter, even TO) Your traition is a buch of pathetic premadonnas, all the way back to Landry. And Jerry Jones... the game has passed you by, you have not one clue how to build a team, go ahead, kick Jimmy Johnson out of town, trade half your draft away for Joey Galloway and Roy Williams. Thats what you have been reduced to, trading the draft away and counting your dust glazed superbowl trophys. Talk to me when you do SOMETHING IN THE 21ST CENTURY DALLAS FANS. Heres how to build a team... You pick up running backs off the Jets practice sqaud and you tell them to waltz into the end zone right past Dallas 2nd round draft picks... thats exactly what Dallas does, they quit.... So until your quarterback wins a meaningful game, until he puts his team on his back and wins the superbowl, dont even talk to me. There is no Eli/Romo or Giant/Cowboy debate, THERE IS NOTHING TO DISCUSS BESIDES YOUR "TRADTION" OF CRININALS AND QUITTERS.

November 21, 2008 12:33 PM
 

Samardzija said:

click click

(This is the sound of me copying Kyles post to create havoc on other message boards)

November 21, 2008 12:35 PM
 

Kyle Langan said:

good, spread the word... casu it is the sound of the new york football giants putting their foot on the throughts of the dallas cowboys

November 21, 2008 12:43 PM
 

Nosh said:

KYLE-

Hopefully they'll miss the playoffs and we'll win the Super Bowl. Because Dallas has been so bad this year I sort of forgot how obnoxious their fans are. Then I was reading some of the things they said on espn.com and it immediately reminded me why I hate them. It seems their fans have a little swagger coming off that Skins win.

So hopefully they crap the bed these next 6 weeks and miss the playoffs, because as much as I would love to beat them in the Div. round, that potential matchup scares me (much as it pains me to admit it). So I'll just hope they miss the post season all together.

55-

Sorry I just don't see it. I understand why we tried him out there because we had Strahan and Osi at the time, there just wasn't room for him on the line. But  he is as natural of a DE as they come. Perhaps a year or 2 down the line he can become a good LB, but why waste a year or 2 of his athletic prime? I guess we'll just have to disagree, I personally think next year he should move to the other DE position while Osi takes his old job back. And move Tuck inside, which seems like his best position anyway.

I understand moving Tuck to DT permanently, we give up some size on the interior, but if you think Tuck can be a good run stuffer from the DT position on 1st and 2nd down than I don't see a problem with it.

November 21, 2008 12:50 PM
 

Nosh said:

Also while I don't think it's a given Spags leaves this offseason, if the Eagles job were to ever open up, which it probably won't, Spags would be gone in a heartbeat.

November 21, 2008 12:51 PM
 

Kyle Langan said:

I agree Nosh. Watch out for Singeltary's niners... They will make Dallas Sweat this week, trust me... I would LOVE to see them lost that game

November 21, 2008 12:51 PM
 

Nosh said:

Good Simmons article on all the new NFL stadiums.

sports.espn.go.com/.../story

November 21, 2008 1:01 PM
 

norm said:

I just don't get all of this "I'll be really scared if we have to face a healthy Dallas in the playoffs" talk around here lately.

Even if the Cowboys make the playoffs; even if their passing game is firing on all cyliders by then; and even if the Giant pass defense proves to be somewhat suspect, there is still one undeniable fact that many here seem to be overlooking:

Barring an epic collapse, the road to the NFC championship runs through New Jersey in January.

Now we all have been watching Giants football long enough to know what kind of team thrives in those kind of conditions. But for those who do not, here's a hint: It's not the team with the finesse passing attack, an aging offensive line, a weary Marion Barber and their changeup back on the IR.  

November 21, 2008 1:09 PM
 

Nosh said:

Which totally reminds me, after attending the Giants / Pats regular season finale last year, I must say, THE GIANTS DON'T NEED A NEW STADIUM. Giants Stadium is just fine for hosting NFL games. Almost every seat is good, and offers a full view of the field. Yes it doesn't have open concourses or any state of the art facilities, but for watching a football game the stadium works just fine.

Shea Stadium on the other hand needed to be demolished, that place was a dump, and this is coming from a Mets fan. But Giants Stadium was always a good place to watch a football game, and still is. Don't know why they have to build a new one?

November 21, 2008 1:11 PM
 

Nosh said:

Norm-

I'm not saying that I don't think we could beat Dallas. I just think they pose the biggest threat. I remember what that Offense did to us during the regular season last year. We couldn't stop them to save our lives. Seriously they must have been near perfect on 3rd down conversions. Now obviously this is not the same Giants team now as it was then but they still pose a threat, in my opinion.

Although its been a while and I've mostly recovered I still have flashbacks of T.O. torching our secondary, and Witten running in circles around AP for entire games. I don't want to relive that, as remote of a possibility it may be.

November 21, 2008 1:17 PM
 

GIANTT said:

TOGM - does punich rhyme with Munich or punnick or punnitch -also whats its language derivation ?

Nosh - I agree with you - S hea wasnt good back when I saw OJ (yes that OJ -before he went visibly bad)go over 2000 yards against the Jets - I think there were about 10 people left in the stands after a thorough mauling and terrible weather - all I remember afterwards was no appreciation of history and a pounding hangover and pneumonia

November 21, 2008 1:25 PM
 

Bartman said:

I nominate Kyle's Cowfruit rant for post of the month.  I'm going to clip that and send it on to a Dallas fan if you don't mind.  It had me choking on my afternoon coffee.  

November 21, 2008 1:30 PM
 

ThatsMyQuarterback said:

ff55y, If the Giants think that Kiwi can handle jumping back and forth from LB to DE and keep his level of play up consistantly then I wouldnt be apposed to trying it out.  

But I tend to agree with Nosh on a DLine of Osi, Tuck, Robbins/Cofield, Kiwi

And LBs of Wilk/draft/Goff, Pierce/Goff, Kehl/Blackburn... or any combination of those guys.

November 21, 2008 1:33 PM
 

Kyle Langan said:

Yeah I meant to say CRIMINALS there at the end of that... you get the gist

November 21, 2008 1:36 PM
 

norm said:

By the way, let me add my thanks to the writers for some really good, nuanced answer to questions that - taken as a whole - seem to encapsulate the most persistent uncertainties surrounding this team. Issues such as Spags'  & Kiwi's future, upcoming contract decisions etc are at the forefront of a lot of Giant fans' minds right now. Kudos to the writers for taking the time to go beyond the usual tired talking points in their responses.

As for the Ross question, I tend to agree that he is probably still too green to step directly into a GM job at this point. However, be aware that if the Giants do repeat or come close, their coaching staff and front office WILL be cannibalized by the league's bottom feeders. This is a fact of life not just in football, but in the world of sports as a whole. Look at what has happened in the NBA with the San Antonio Spurs. Not only have Poppovich's assistants (such as Mike Brown and Carlesimo) been tapped for head coaching gigs, but two somewhat obscure members of their scouting staff - Kevin Pritchard and Sam Presti - are now serving as GMs of the Trail Blazers and OKC Thunder, respectively.

The same could easily happen with Ross. There's no doubt in my mind that he is already on the league's radar as a premiere evaluator of talent. I could see some team luring him with a huge bump in pay and a promise of a GM job after apprenticing for a year or two with someone at the tail end of their career. And I don't doubt that Ross would be willing to listen. He knows that Reese is not going anywhere anytime soon and I'm sure he'd like to have his shot at being the guy with his hand on the rudder. I think if he does not leave this offseason, he'll almost certainly be gone by the next.

November 21, 2008 1:38 PM
 

The Original G Man said:

GIANTT ... rhymes with "Munich" I would think.

November 21, 2008 1:39 PM
 

SwantonBOMB56 said:

There is no way Tuck is going to be moved inside to play DT with any regularity, only on passing downs.  The guy weighs 285 tops he would get worn down throughout the course of a game, and prob  wouldnt make it through a season.  next year Kiwi either needs to fall into the backup DE role and be in on certain packages that maximize our pass rushing depth, or have another crack at LB.  Personally I think hes better suited just being our back up DE, so that we can throw wave after wave of pass rushers at opposing teams ala tuck last year.  hopefully we can draft or pick up a impact LB in Free Agency,.

November 21, 2008 1:48 PM
 

ThatsMyQuarterback said:

Swanton, as I was writing my last post I was thinking the same thing about Tuck being worn out.  Kiwi needs to stay on the Line in my opinion, and he cant just be used as a back up, he is too good to be kept off the field for to many plays at a time.  

Spags seems to know what he is doing with getting players in and out and moving them around effectively, so I am sure he will have something set up for next year when the time comes.  If he chooses to go with Kiwi at a sort of Hybrid position where he plays a little DE and a little LB, and that is the most effective way to keep him out there, then I would be all for it.  In the meantime, I am just going to continue to enjoy watching him play DE.

November 21, 2008 1:55 PM
 

fanfor55years said:

Kyle, best rant of the year. Please post it on every Cowboys website so you can drive their stupid fanbase crazy.

What was your post about the Eagles? I don't think I saw it, but if it said the Eagles are in need of rebuilding, I agree. Too old, not athletic enough on their O-line, too small on their D-line, Westbrook no longer the stud he was, a really lousy tight end, a talented head-case in Jackson, and real issues at quarterback. I just don't think they're much of an NFC East factor for the next few years.

November 21, 2008 2:27 PM
 

Kyle Langan said:

oh... ill copy and paste it here now...

This was from last thread

TOP TEN EAGLES THAT NEED TO GO

Two days and a racking amount of nausea and diarrhea (caused by the viewing? perhaps) after the Eagles' dispiriting tie in Cincinnati, this Eagle Fan is still looking for heads to roll. So here's my Enemies List. You'll discover a certain pattern to it.

10. David Akers. Hasn't been good for years, does them no favors with the depth or hang time of his kickoffs, more cap money than should ever be spent on a kicker (i.e., more than the minimum), and has cost them games with his lack of performance. I'd like to feel good about the kicker lining up from outside of 40 yards again. (Oh, and it would have also been nice if he had hit the long one against the Giants last year. You know, the one that could have led to the Giants being out of the playoffs, and the Eagles getting in. Now, where are those jumper cables that I use to make bad memories go away again?)

9. Sean Considine. Acceptable in small doses on special teams. Unfortunately, as the higher moments in this list show, they need him to do more than that. When you find yourself wondering if you could get Michael Lewis back from the Niners, that's not a good sign.

8. LJ Smith. Perhaps the worst player ever designated as a franchise talent. Seriously, guys, WTF? He can't block, can't hold on for meaningful catches, is prone to deadly fumbles *and* can't stay healthy. The franchise designation is ready to sue for defamation of character over this. Cut him, and see what kind of gig he gets. (Hint: Takeo-Dhani-esque.)

7. A.J. Feeley. Let's see, we've got an experienced first-string QB, a promising young second-stringer, and... um, what exactly is AJ again, other than a guy that knows the playbook?

Here's a wild guess about why this team doesn't quite show the urgency it needs. Feeley still has a job after his unspeakable tank job last year at home against Seattle -- a loss that, oh by the way, might have kept the Eagles out of the playoffs (and the NY Giants in).

If you cut him, no one would employ him. That means you should cut him.

6. Dan Klecko. Is it a fullback? No, not really. Is it a nose tackle? Only in Andy Reid's fever dreams and depth chart, where defensive linemen have to be at least 50 to 100 pounds smaller than their opponent, so that they come into every game knowing that if the offense doesn't score first, they'll be pancaked by the third quarter. Besides, it's *fun* to lose the same away every year!

But getting back to the target, rather than the entire disease... Klecko is what happens when you emulate the Patriots, only without the top-line talent evaluation. (And his back-up at fullback? 2007 Belichick Victory Cigar Kyle Eckel. Yes, he's also undersized. I swear, the man has a sickness.)

5. Greg Lewis. Look, the Super Bowl was a long time ago, and it might also have been the last time that Lewis had a very good game. Like Feeley before him, he should have been terminated with extreme prejudice after his crushing screw up caused the team a loss (that, sigh, wound up keeping them out of the playoffs and the Giants in...).

For Lewis, that was in Week One of 2007, on the road in Green Bay, where the Eagles would have beaten a team that wound up finishing 13-3 if they had only not attempted to field a punt all day.

No, seriously, he's been continuously employed to play football ever since that. And you wonder why Philly Fan still has anger management issues, even after the Phillies' win...

4. Winston Justice. I know, it's amazing, isn't it? Still listed on the active roster after nearly getting his quarterback killed as a human turnstile against the Giants on SNF in 2007, and who the hell knows, maybe they'll go to him next, since they are getting no push in the running game now as is.

Just do me a favor and don't make it for the Giants game. I still have flashbacks. (Oh, and the fact that he was on an island for that whole game? Yes, it contributed to another selection on the list. Strongly.)

3. Brian Dawkins. Several years ago, when Jeremy Shockey outfought Dawk at the goal line for one of the worst moments of all of our lives, we all knew this day was coming... and now, it's just about every tight end with a pulse. He's the best to ever play the position for the franchise, but this isn't about winning in 2001, or even 2006, when he should have walked away, after the Saints loss. But on a team that values loyalty over performance, I fully expect him to be moved back to corner. In 2012.

2. Lorenzo Booker. Has this man done anything in this year to justify a roster spot -- a single good play? One actual block? Seriously, I'm out of ideas as to how he has a gig. He hasn't even cost them a game yet, unlike most of the rest of this list.

Would this position be infinitely better suited with an entirely disposable big-butt back like TJ Duckett, just so we could see someone else fail in short yardage? Of course. Is it fair to note that his Wunderlic score is only slightly higher than a floor lamp? Probably. Is Bill Parcells giggling like a schoolgirl over the fourth round pick that he got for this miserable excuse for a football player? Hey presto, we have a triple. Beer me.

1. Andy Reid. I'm sorry, Andy, really I am. I've defended you longer than just about anyone else in Blogfrica; I've even held out hope that you were just being blindsided by your odious offspring, and that you were really ready to bring a good team back into town.

But when your quarterback doesn't know the rules of overtime, you can't be trusted with a challenge flag to save your life, you are 0-7 in your lat 7 night games, and the rest of the division has put you in the rear-view window... it's time to blow this mess up. You are too old / fat / loyal / stupid / unlucky to have this gig anymore.

I don't really care what the reason is; you just make me sad.

Go away now.

November 21, 2008 2:29 PM